Comments on: Mining Accident Fallout http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/ neweurasia\'s Kazakhstan blog Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:36:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Trouble Looming for Mittal Kazakhstan http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-25442 kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Trouble Looming for Mittal Kazakhstan Thu, 17 May 2007 16:35:36 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-25442 [...] has to be cautious not to take sides too prematurely: While Kazakhstan and Mittal share a colourful mutual history - it’s not entirely clear whether the move is politically-motivated or caused by a clear-cut [...] […] has to be cautious not to take sides too prematurely: While Kazakhstan and Mittal share a colourful mutual history - it’s not entirely clear whether the move is politically-motivated or caused by a clear-cut […]

]]> By: Samir http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-14893 Samir Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:26:18 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-14893 In Zenica,Bosnia 3 men died in gas accident few days ago.In Romania 25 men has died since 2001. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/16/wrom16.xml It is a fact that Mittal Steel is very dangerous company to work for.Indian management in Zenica (Paul Victor,M.K. Srinivasan,Sanjay Kale,Prasad Shesha) is not capable nor competitive to run a steel factory.Maybe some in India with indian safety standards where death toll is tolerable. All they want is to push production and save money.Shesha & Company`s idea od safety standard was 3 euro helmet and 4 euro rubber sole shoes and signing a paper that you have seen a 15 minutes movie (safety training certificate???) Lunatics. Sanjay Kale,beside his idiotic character,wasnt allowing money for basic safety equipment. Who brought these idiotic indian villagers to run steel plants???? In Zenica,Bosnia 3 men died in gas accident few days ago.In Romania 25 men has died since 2001.

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It is a fact that Mittal Steel is very dangerous company to work for.Indian management in Zenica (Paul Victor,M.K. Srinivasan,Sanjay Kale,Prasad Shesha) is not capable nor competitive to run a steel factory.Maybe some in India with indian safety standards where death toll is tolerable. All they want is to push production and save money.Shesha & Company`s idea od safety standard was 3 euro helmet and 4 euro rubber sole shoes and signing a paper that you have seen a 15 minutes movie (safety training certificate???) Lunatics. Sanjay Kale,beside his idiotic character,wasnt allowing money for basic safety equipment. Who brought these idiotic indian villagers to run steel plants????

]]> By: kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Atyrau Blog Reports on Clashes between Oil Workers http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-4332 kazakhstan.neweurasia.net » Atyrau Blog Reports on Clashes between Oil Workers Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:15:18 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-4332 [...] According to the Atyrau Informant, the fact that the accident “may seriously damage intenational reputation of country, especially considering abovementioned case in Temirtau and 72 HIV-positive new-born childs in Shymkent”, made the state-media careful about reporting on it. Could it also be that the mining accident in Karaganda, when 41 people dies, is still not forgotten? Could it be an unlucky coincidence that Dariga Nazarbayeva has just published a statement in Karavan newspaper urging Kazakhstan to improve its labor legislation and see that foreign investors abide by it? …statements like “You will be fired and replaced by anyone else from people who are waiting for a job like dogs in front of the doors” addressed to national workers make them silent and impair their rights to negotiate labour conditions with mangament team. Organization of trade (labour) unions inside the company is not permitted as well, writes Yerlan. [...] […] According to the Atyrau Informant, the fact that the accident “may seriously damage intenational reputation of country, especially considering abovementioned case in Temirtau and 72 HIV-positive new-born childs in Shymkent”, made the state-media careful about reporting on it. Could it also be that the mining accident in Karaganda, when 41 people dies, is still not forgotten? Could it be an unlucky coincidence that Dariga Nazarbayeva has just published a statement in Karavan newspaper urging Kazakhstan to improve its labor legislation and see that foreign investors abide by it? …statements like “You will be fired and replaced by anyone else from people who are waiting for a job like dogs in front of the doors” addressed to national workers make them silent and impair their rights to negotiate labour conditions with mangament team. Organization of trade (labour) unions inside the company is not permitted as well, writes Yerlan. […]

]]> By: Ben http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3799 Ben Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:39:28 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3799 Thanks for your comment Saniya. While I am generally happy to take criticism to heart, I have a slight problem with yours. What exactly are your problems with the above post? And as you're not backing up your assault on me with any alternative 'research data', nor do you specify your problem with my earlier posts, I am quite inclined to dismiss your criticism as a clear sign of your boredom. Most of the things I wrote above are directly traceable to media coverage of the Temirtau mining accident (just click on the hyperlinks, they're marked in red) - so there's not a lot of speculating/guesswork coming from my side. I didn't fact-check the quotes I put in there obviously, but hey - this is a blog after all, no academic journal. Again, if you disagree, I would be most eager to hear your alternative point of view. If you don't have anything to add apart from the above, maybe consider not leaving comments like yours on blogs like this. Thanks for your comment Saniya.

While I am generally happy to take criticism to heart, I have a slight problem with yours.

What exactly are your problems with the above post? And as you’re not backing up your assault on me with any alternative ‘research data’, nor do you specify your problem with my earlier posts, I am quite inclined to dismiss your criticism as a clear sign of your boredom.

Most of the things I wrote above are directly traceable to media coverage of the Temirtau mining accident (just click on the hyperlinks, they’re marked in red) - so there’s not a lot of speculating/guesswork coming from my side. I didn’t fact-check the quotes I put in there obviously, but hey - this is a blog after all, no academic journal.

Again, if you disagree, I would be most eager to hear your alternative point of view. If you don’t have anything to add apart from the above, maybe consider not leaving comments like yours on blogs like this.

]]> By: Saniya http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3732 Saniya Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:09:22 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3732 I've been reading some of yours articles, including this one. Well, can't resist writing some of my comments. Who is making research data information for your artilces? I just hate when people writing something that they do not know or have limited information about. Please do a proper research before giving or writing any facts!!!!!!!!!!!! or leave your comments at yellow pages magazines. I’ve been reading some of yours articles, including this one. Well, can’t resist writing some of my comments. Who is making research data information for your artilces? I just hate when people writing something that they do not know or have limited information about.
Please do a proper research before giving or writing any facts!!!!!!!!!!!! or leave your comments at yellow pages magazines.

]]> By: Ben http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3485 Ben Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:21:57 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3485 Nick, I would have to do some reading on that. But maybe our Kazakh contributors know more about this... Nick, I would have to do some reading on that. But maybe our Kazakh contributors know more about this…

]]> By: Nick http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3444 Nick Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:34:01 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2006/09/26/mining-accident-fallout/#comment-3444 What is the level of union organisation? What is the level of union organisation?

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