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	<title>Comments on: Halal, Says the President</title>
	<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/</link>
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		<title>By: dr. mohd. rafiuddin makhdumi</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-42917</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. mohd. rafiuddin makhdumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am working in the centre of central asian studies , university of kashmir, Srinager, India.I was in Kazakhstan in connection with my field study regarding my project.
There is wrong notion among the foreigners that  Halal meat is not available in Kazkahstan. In Almatay there are UZbek restaurants where  Hala meat is served in the shape of kebeb, pulao and other dishes.  
 Kazakhs are very conscious of their identity and roots . with the religious freedom they are trying to learn the tenants of Islam and try to follow them .
the people of western Kazakhstan are more aware of their reiligious duties and obligations.
The government should  issue instructions to the concerned officials to make  on the  packing with printred HALAL with  manufacturing date also.
 for a foreigner  especially of indian subcontinant a thing of surprise is that when they come to know that in the  Kazakh markests along with beef, and sheep meat there is also horse meat. the horse  is slaughtered in the Islamic way.
 i would also like learn from anybody who has been to Kazakhstan about his travel, experience  especioally regarding islam in post Soviet Kazakhstan, during his stay there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am working in the centre of central asian studies , university of kashmir, Srinager, India.I was in Kazakhstan in connection with my field study regarding my project.<br />
There is wrong notion among the foreigners that  Halal meat is not available in Kazkahstan. In Almatay there are UZbek restaurants where  Hala meat is served in the shape of kebeb, pulao and other dishes.<br />
 Kazakhs are very conscious of their identity and roots . with the religious freedom they are trying to learn the tenants of Islam and try to follow them .<br />
the people of western Kazakhstan are more aware of their reiligious duties and obligations.<br />
The government should  issue instructions to the concerned officials to make  on the  packing with printred HALAL with  manufacturing date also.<br />
 for a foreigner  especially of indian subcontinant a thing of surprise is that when they come to know that in the  Kazakh markests along with beef, and sheep meat there is also horse meat. the horse  is slaughtered in the Islamic way.<br />
 i would also like learn from anybody who has been to Kazakhstan about his travel, experience  especioally regarding islam in post Soviet Kazakhstan, during his stay there.</p>
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		<title>By: Hafeez ur Rehman</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-42832</link>
		<dc:creator>Hafeez ur Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-42832</guid>
		<description>I am an electrical engineer working in Kumkol PKKR resources. Its a remote site almost 160 km from Kzylorda. I don't find halal meat. I work here for 28 days rotation and I prefer to eat only vegetable. I would advice all of you to avoid it unless you are sure that its halal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an electrical engineer working in Kumkol PKKR resources. Its a remote site almost 160 km from Kzylorda. I don&#8217;t find halal meat. I work here for 28 days rotation and I prefer to eat only vegetable. I would advice all of you to avoid it unless you are sure that its halal.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. mohd. rafiuddin makhdumi</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-42736</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. mohd. rafiuddin makhdumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-42736</guid>
		<description>i was in kazakhstan. halah meat is available in the hotels as well as  in dthe restaurants. in almaty there are uzbek hotels and restaurants which serve  uzbeks dishes. in the southern kazakhstan ,i taraz and shymkent halal is served to the satisfaction of the customers. it takes some time for a foreigner to adjust to the local food .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was in kazakhstan. halah meat is available in the hotels as well as  in dthe restaurants. in almaty there are uzbek hotels and restaurants which serve  uzbeks dishes. in the southern kazakhstan ,i taraz and shymkent halal is served to the satisfaction of the customers. it takes some time for a foreigner to adjust to the local food .</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-40792</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-40792</guid>
		<description>I am a muslim from South Africa, like Adil, I will be in Kazakhstan for two months beginning in January 2008. I also need some information about mosques in Almaty/Astana and halal meat restaurants or butchers. I havent been able to find any references on the internet. Please help.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a muslim from South Africa, like Adil, I will be in Kazakhstan for two months beginning in January 2008. I also need some information about mosques in Almaty/Astana and halal meat restaurants or butchers. I havent been able to find any references on the internet. Please help&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sumali bin Amat</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-40297</link>
		<dc:creator>Sumali bin Amat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-40297</guid>
		<description>Halal standard basically ensures that food is clean and safe. Malaysian halal standard (MS 1500:2004) incorporates GMP (Good Management Practices), GHP (Good Hygienic Practices) for cleanliness and HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point) for safety. GMP, GHP &#38; HACCP are world standards for cleanliness and safety. If you take halal food, you are protected from cronic deaseses such as cancers or food &#38; mouth deaseases. Cleanliness and safety are part of Islamic traditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halal standard basically ensures that food is clean and safe. Malaysian halal standard (MS 1500:2004) incorporates GMP (Good Management Practices), GHP (Good Hygienic Practices) for cleanliness and HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point) for safety. GMP, GHP &amp; HACCP are world standards for cleanliness and safety. If you take halal food, you are protected from cronic deaseses such as cancers or food &amp; mouth deaseases. Cleanliness and safety are part of Islamic traditions.</p>
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		<title>By: adil</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-22746</link>
		<dc:creator>adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-22746</guid>
		<description>Hello, I am a muslim from morocco, i am in Almaty now and will stay here for 2 months. I need some information about mosques in Almaty and halal meat restaurants. I am very surprised to find no reference to halal meat in restaurant. please help me. Any contact will be also great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I am a muslim from morocco, i am in Almaty now and will stay here for 2 months. I need some information about mosques in Almaty and halal meat restaurants. I am very surprised to find no reference to halal meat in restaurant. please help me. Any contact will be also great</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17345</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17345</guid>
		<description>The ones I saw were kiosk-style structures around the Zelyonii bazaar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ones I saw were kiosk-style structures around the Zelyonii bazaar.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17264</link>
		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17264</guid>
		<description>Asqat, it's true, I was writing from the point of view of a non-Muslim, and there is a majority in my surrounding. Someone who goes to mosque on Fridays would write a different article! Where are the halal restaurants and shops? I am curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asqat, it&#8217;s true, I was writing from the point of view of a non-Muslim, and there is a majority in my surrounding. Someone who goes to mosque on Fridays would write a different article! Where are the halal restaurants and shops? I am curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17202</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17202</guid>
		<description>I agree with brother Aqsat. Of course you will not find halal meat stands in the posh centre and in the elitnii doma quarters of Almaty. But I saw a couple around the Zelyonii bazaar and north of Raimbek and Gogol -- ‘the other Almaty’ that the oil expats and local elite don’t (want to) see.

References to Islam and Islamic identity by the power elites was more common in the early ‘90s than after that, but this kind of remarks actually does not surprises me. Maybe it indicates that even part of the Soviet-shaped elites start to realise that Islam will, like it or not, unavoidably be part of Central Asia’s identity and society in the future. 

BTW, Nazarabyev’s nephew and KGB man Kayrat Satibaldy (Kayrat Nazarbayev) seems to be on the issue:
http://www.islam.ru/pressclub/gost/nazarbaev/?print_page

Amother old cliché that no longers fits IMO is, that Islam in Kazakhstan is only st. that happens "in the Shymkent region". Although this is still largely the case, there are certain dynamics going on in places and among people where you would not expect it, eg. some parts of Almaty and even Northern Kazakhstan.

“Or is it true that Kazakhs “have been long ago transformed into a faceless mass, without roots and soil, without names and a destiny”, as Auezkhan Kodar wrote?”

In a way, yes -- it is true. And not only for the Kazakhs even though ex-nomadic people like Kazakhs-Kyrgyz seem to have been much more uprooted by Soviet colonialism than others. This is why Islam is one of the few realistic options to build a new identity, self-respect and a destiny instead of surrogate culture, pornocracy and a bad imitation of the West and the 'new Russians'. The alternative is marginalisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with brother Aqsat. Of course you will not find halal meat stands in the posh centre and in the elitnii doma quarters of Almaty. But I saw a couple around the Zelyonii bazaar and north of Raimbek and Gogol &#8212; ‘the other Almaty’ that the oil expats and local elite don’t (want to) see.</p>
<p>References to Islam and Islamic identity by the power elites was more common in the early ‘90s than after that, but this kind of remarks actually does not surprises me. Maybe it indicates that even part of the Soviet-shaped elites start to realise that Islam will, like it or not, unavoidably be part of Central Asia’s identity and society in the future. </p>
<p>BTW, Nazarabyev’s nephew and KGB man Kayrat Satibaldy (Kayrat Nazarbayev) seems to be on the issue:<br />
<a href="http://www.islam.ru/pressclub/gost/nazarbaev/?print_page" rel="nofollow">http://www.islam.ru/pressclub/gost/nazarbaev/?print_page</a></p>
<p>Amother old cliché that no longers fits IMO is, that Islam in Kazakhstan is only st. that happens &#8220;in the Shymkent region&#8221;. Although this is still largely the case, there are certain dynamics going on in places and among people where you would not expect it, eg. some parts of Almaty and even Northern Kazakhstan.</p>
<p>“Or is it true that Kazakhs “have been long ago transformed into a faceless mass, without roots and soil, without names and a destiny”, as Auezkhan Kodar wrote?”</p>
<p>In a way, yes &#8212; it is true. And not only for the Kazakhs even though ex-nomadic people like Kazakhs-Kyrgyz seem to have been much more uprooted by Soviet colonialism than others. This is why Islam is one of the few realistic options to build a new identity, self-respect and a destiny instead of surrogate culture, pornocracy and a bad imitation of the West and the &#8216;new Russians&#8217;. The alternative is marginalisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Asqat</title>
		<link>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17102</link>
		<dc:creator>Asqat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/06/halal-says-the-president/#comment-17102</guid>
		<description>It's not true that Kazakh doesn't ask in market halal meat. There are several halal restaurants and cafe in Almaty. Also there is a special halal meat store. Many Kazakh students practicing Islam. On every Juma pray a lot of Muslims in the mosques.  Nazarbayev said that we have potential to export halal foods to our neighbor country with Muslim majority. I think we should use this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not true that Kazakh doesn&#8217;t ask in market halal meat. There are several halal restaurants and cafe in Almaty. Also there is a special halal meat store. Many Kazakh students practicing Islam. On every Juma pray a lot of Muslims in the mosques.  Nazarbayev said that we have potential to export halal foods to our neighbor country with Muslim majority. I think we should use this one.</p>
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