Comments on: Aksai Myth or the Overseas FiancĂ©e http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/ neweurasia\'s Kazakhstan blog Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:35:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Vinod Panicker http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-44615 Vinod Panicker Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:08:55 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-44615 I was in Kaz for more than 2 years. I have seen the new generation thinks as same as what the little girl in mini bus. I been to interiors of Aksai and Uralsk and feel the hospitality of Kazakhs. To be honest it is better than my own country - in cities. Gandhiji told "India's soul is in villages". I was in Kaz for more than 2 years. I have seen the new generation thinks as same as what the little girl in mini bus. I been to interiors of Aksai and Uralsk and feel the hospitality of Kazakhs. To be honest it is better than my own country - in cities. Gandhiji told “India’s soul is in villages”.

]]> By: Allan http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-44065 Allan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:07:28 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-44065 I have worked in may different cultures and countries and each has its own magic. i agree with some of what is said above but feel that there is a lot of stereotyping. there are good and bad in every culture western and eastern all of them, and i also disagree with Angela's comments as she seems to be decribing an individual or couple of individuals she knows personally. I must admit what i do see in western culture (especially young people) is a deterioration of family and social values where in eastern countries those values are still there. Maybe i am old fasioned but i look at eastern women who still have a style and grace and a pride in how the look and behave and i look at what can be seen on the streets of some western cities especially when the bars close. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Kazakhstan and really liked the people and culture i have also lived and worked in other FSU countries and pride myself in getting past the "expat Bars" and getting to know the people and on the whole what i have found is a sense of family and cultural values the we in the west have lost about 30 years ago or more. I have worked in may different cultures and countries and each has its own magic. i agree with some of what is said above but feel that there is a lot of stereotyping. there are good and bad in every culture western and eastern all of them, and i also disagree with Angela’s comments as she seems to be decribing an individual or couple of individuals she knows personally. I must admit what i do see in western culture (especially young people) is a deterioration of family and social values where in eastern countries those values are still there. Maybe i am old fasioned but i look at eastern women who still have a style and grace and a pride in how the look and behave and i look at what can be seen on the streets of some western cities especially when the bars close. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Kazakhstan and really liked the people and culture i have also lived and worked in other FSU countries and pride myself in getting past the “expat Bars” and getting to know the people and on the whole what i have found is a sense of family and cultural values the we in the west have lost about 30 years ago or more.

]]> By: Angela http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-43517 Angela Fri, 09 May 2008 19:40:14 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-43517 Personally I believe if men dont want nobody can steal them ! They coming to those places like Aksai to work less harder than in their home countries and be paid tripple. They drink and have fun with local girls cos nobody will go out with them in their home countires. No western girl of age 18-25 will go out with a fat ugly foreigner hoping that he will marry her! They shag those girls cos they allow them to do that and those old farts just dont want to lose their chance to fill that he still can get someone better than his wife who is probably twice older than the girl from Aksai bar. Personally I believe if men dont want nobody can steal them ! They coming to those places like Aksai to work less harder than in their home countries and be paid tripple. They drink and have fun with local girls cos nobody will go out with them in their home countires. No western girl of age 18-25 will go out with a fat ugly foreigner hoping that he will marry her! They shag those girls cos they allow them to do that and those old farts just dont want to lose their chance to fill that he still can get someone better than his wife who is probably twice older than the girl from Aksai bar.

]]> By: Mysterious http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-41613 Mysterious Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:42:14 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-41613 Some information here is a way too general. I know that some people in Europe do not like some people from Russia or other Ex-Soviet countries, but who ever do not like people because they are from Ex-Soviet country is shallow and is not worth to pay attention at. Like somebody said that in Arab countries Eastern European women are treated badly, it is because of the way they dressed or act that does not go along with arabic cultures'' conservative side. I think that people should respect culture where they live and try to understand this culture and adapt to it. In Aksai I know there are some shameless woman, who hunt after foreigners, who have kids and family back in their home country. That is a shame that this happens, I guess it is a desperation for these woman to get out from Aksai or lack of self-respect. I do not respect these particular woman, but I wish they have self-respect towards themselves and do something to live better on their own, instead of trying to steal somebody's foreigner husband to improve their financial situation or whatever situation. Some information here is a way too general. I know that some people in Europe do not like some people from Russia or other Ex-Soviet countries, but who ever do not like people because they are from Ex-Soviet country is shallow and is not worth to pay attention at.
Like somebody said that in Arab countries Eastern European women are treated badly, it is because of the way they dressed or act that does not go along with arabic cultures” conservative side. I think that people should respect culture where they live and try to understand this culture and adapt to it.

In Aksai I know there are some shameless woman, who hunt after foreigners, who have kids and family back in their home country.
That is a shame that this happens, I guess it is a desperation for these woman to get out from Aksai or lack of self-respect. I do not respect these particular woman, but I wish they have self-respect towards themselves and do something to live better on their own, instead of trying to steal somebody’s foreigner husband to improve their financial situation or whatever situation.

]]> By: KZblog :: Older Post: Foreign Lovers :: September :: 2007 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-40064 KZblog :: Older Post: Foreign Lovers :: September :: 2007 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:58:03 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-40064 [...] on Kazakhstan Neweurasia (in Russian) about the myth of the foreign fiancee (English translation here, and I am working off the English translation because I am lazy!), about her experience of having [...] […] on Kazakhstan Neweurasia (in Russian) about the myth of the foreign fiancee (English translation here, and I am working off the English translation because I am lazy!), about her experience of having […]

]]> By: Aliya http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-36766 Aliya Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:56:25 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-36766 just a quick note: I agree with leila and Bob. Special thanks to Bob for what he says and recognises. just a quick note: I agree with leila and Bob. Special thanks to Bob for what he says and recognises.

]]> By: Bob http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-28794 Bob Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:12:55 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-28794 This made good reading. I'm going to be spending some time out at the KPO site in the next year or so, working closely with a local team. I hope to be able to earn their respect and trust and to learn of their country and culture. It is always a privelege to be allowed to work in another country and it is a pity that it is true that too many ex-pats think they are the ones to be thanked. Yes, they may have skills but the true test of their skills and humanity is being able to pass those skills on and then come away. Instead, the tendency is to think "if I teach you, you will know as much as me and I can't have that". A great pity. I look forward to my time in the country. This made good reading. I’m going to be spending some time out at the KPO site in the next year or so, working closely with a local team. I hope to be able to earn their respect and trust and to learn of their country and culture. It is always a privelege to be allowed to work in another country and it is a pity that it is true that too many ex-pats think they are the ones to be thanked. Yes, they may have skills but the true test of their skills and humanity is being able to pass those skills on and then come away. Instead, the tendency is to think “if I teach you, you will know as much as me and I can’t have that”. A great pity.
I look forward to my time in the country.

]]> By: Finally Two Quick Things… - www.ChrisMerriman.com - Chris’ Blog - I Never Could Get The Hang Of Thursdays http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17384 Finally Two Quick Things… - www.ChrisMerriman.com - Chris’ Blog - I Never Could Get The Hang Of Thursdays Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:11:19 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17384 [...] female readers, who have Western men placed on a pedestal in their minds, please do check out this link. Share [...] […] female readers, who have Western men placed on a pedestal in their minds, please do check out this link. Share […]

]]> By: Ataman Rakin http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17220 Ataman Rakin Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:03:18 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17220 Lola, in our case, it has not so much to do with China being better know than this or that 'stan. It's just that the stereotypes about Chinese here are less degrading than those about Russians/Soviets. Lola, in our case, it has not so much to do with China being better know than this or that ’stan. It’s just that the stereotypes about Chinese here are less degrading than those about Russians/Soviets.

]]> By: Leila http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17113 Leila Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:47:09 +0000 http://kazakhstan.neweurasia.net/2007/03/07/aksai-myth-or-the-overseas-fiancee/#comment-17113 I understand, many people would know China rather than some former Soviet Central Asian republic. It is one's own business how to call themselves, though I am sure there are many stereotypes towards Chinese too, as well as Americans, French, Roma minorities, etc, etc. ... I just think it's useless to try to cater to an average person's knowledge about the world. Well, maybe I don't know much about being discriminated on the basis of my nationality or ex-Soviet background. I know some successful Central Asian women in Europe, who do not have to hide their identities. I understand, many people would know China rather than some former Soviet Central Asian republic. It is one’s own business how to call themselves, though I am sure there are many stereotypes towards Chinese too, as well as Americans, French, Roma minorities, etc, etc. … I just think it’s useless to try to cater to an average person’s knowledge about the world. Well, maybe I don’t know much about being discriminated on the basis of my nationality or ex-Soviet background. I know some successful Central Asian women in Europe, who do not have to hide their identities.

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